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Would Standing Eight Count Have Avoided Herb Dean Blunder At Rousey vs. McMann?

Rousey vs. McMann early stoppageThanks to a well placed knee strike by Ronda Rousey along with a premature stoppage by referee Herb Dean, Sara McMann’s dream of becoming UFC Womens Bantamweight Champion was over in 66 seconds.

McMann was actually winning the striking battle with more significant punches and elbows before Rousey pushed her against the cage.

That is where Sara made a huge mistake. If she didn’t want to attempt a takedown, she should have continued her excellent movement by immediately circling off the cage away from Ronda (see How To Beat Ronda Rousey).

To her credit, Ronda (who had been getting pounded by Sara until then), capitalized on Sara’s lack of movement with excellent knee strikes. One of the knees hit Sara’s liver and dropped her to all fours. Herb Dean immediately stopped the fight.

It was a terrible stoppage, another blunder by Herb Dean but that’s not Ronda Rousey’s fault. She delivered the accurate knee strike.

A possible solution would have been a standing eight count. Such a rule would not have to used every time a fighter was hurt or knocked down. It would be at the discretion of the referee.

The standing eight count is a boxing term. Perhaps it’s a misnomer to use that expression in MMA because it could be used effectively while a fighter is actually down, as was the case with Sara McMann. For MMA a better term might be stop action count.

Had a standing eight count or stop action count rule been in place for UFC 170 Rousey vs. McMann, there is no doubt Herb Dean would have seen Sara McMann could continue fighting with no problem. It would have given Herb Dean more time to make an accurate, correct call. Instead, UFC fans were robbed of watching a potentially great championship fight.

Ronda Rousey put on another strong performance but after the fight she was again loudly booed by the audience. Of course many fans were outraged by Herb Dean’s early stoppage but many more fans simply dislike Rousey.

Later, during a post fight interview, Ronda lamented about how she still will be criticized after her winning defense of the title. She wondered what kind of remarks some would say even though she fought well.

The problem with that is MMA fans do not loudly boo or hold Rousey in contempt because of her skills in the cage. They dislike her because of the way she acts as a human being.

True fans know Rousey was dishonest when claiming to have only trashed talked Miesha Tate. Fans saw Rousey’s true personality as she lied, cried, flipped off and made false charges of “Armenian racism” while acting like a contemptibly obnoxious person on the TUF 18 TV series.

UFC fans dislike her because they have discovered Ronda Rousey will spit in your beer when you’re not looking.

 

 

 

3 thoughts on “Would Standing Eight Count Have Avoided Herb Dean Blunder At Rousey vs. McMann?

  1. Standing eight count is horrible. It would have such a huge impact on ground game and the nature of GNP. Do you even watch MMA?

    1. I disagree. If you read my article you’ll see that I mentioned “standing eight count” might be a misnomer as applied during MMA fights. A better term would be “stop action eight count” because in MMA the referee would not have to stand up the fighter. Of course it should only be applied when the ref is not certain of a fighter’s condition and ability to continue fighting. It would be at the ref’s discretion and of course rarely used during GnP. It could be a useful tool to avoid early stoppages.

      1. That would just be strange.
        A standing eight is for when a boxer/kickboxer (sport where it is about stand up striking) is hurt but still standing and to examine the condition.
        If you stop the action a fighter will recover and continue and and possbile brain damage will be even more severe.

        Frank Cortiwww.askmen.com/sports/fanatic_300/316_which-is-more-dangerous-boxing-or-mma.html

        Sara initiated the clinch herself.
        Sara got put against the fence and took some knees before so dropped to all fours and did not get up immediately.
        Still think it was a early stoppage and Herb should have given it another few seconds.

        However clearly Sara was in trouble and she was not covering up or moving after the knee.

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